Throughout the interview, led by the inspiration of a cephalopod now extinct 66 million years, we explore what is means to live our lives in alignment with life, creatively, and with heartbreak, grief, endings, and death as not only necessary parts of the process, but gifts that can deepen, enrich, and guide our limited days.

Shelley and Charley Wininger join us to tell a story of great loss, one that provides the context to wonder about the potential of group MDMA experiences for grief and the recently bereaved, as well as questions about death and dying, feeling safe to be vulnerable, and the profound healing of togetherness in times of great loss.

Our guest for this episode is Stephen Jenkinson and, with him, we will wonder about wonder and inquire–with wonder–about wisdom, prejudice, language, Mystery, generational truancy, the plague, and inquiry itself.

TherPsil is a coalition dedicated to fighting for the rights of Canadians to access psilocybin-assisted therapy for the terminally ill

In 2017, Andrea Bird received her terminal diagnosis. In December of 2018, having no experience with it up to this point, she received underground psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy to grapple with the challenge of dying. She is on the show for this episode to share her psilocybin story publicly for the first time.

Stephen Jenkinson joins us to discuss arguments against psilocybin for the dying, death as a god, the failures of hope, the cowardice of misanthropy, and the dangers of being arrogant when facing the divine.

This episode not only discusses the power of psilocybin to help us develop the skill of confident vulnerability but also what such a psychedelic lesson might mean for masculinity in the cultural context of inner-city Detroit.