Tripping into Post-Scarcity: AI, Psychedelics, and the Future of Filmmaking

This episode features an interview with Jeffery Lando, an experienced filmmaker who recently directed the psychedelic-themed movie “Lissa’s Trip”. Our discussion explores the intersection of psychedelics, artificial intelligence, and filmmaking.

Jeffery Lando is a seasoned filmmaker from Vancouver, with a career spanning over two decades in traditional filmmaking. His body of work includes award-winning thrillers and groundbreaking independent films, but his latest project, Lissa’s Trip, marks a bold departure. As a psychedelic comedy, Lissa’s Trip is not just an exploration of altered states of consciousness but also an experiment in non-hierarchical, AI-assisted filmmaking. The film, which premiered at the Warsaw International Film Festival and is now streaming on Tubi, reflects Jeffery’s growing interest in what is possible at the intersection of technology and creativity.

In this interview, we discuss into how Lando used AI and other emerging technologies to create the visual effects for his film, producing some of the best LSD-like psychedelic visuals and audio that I have personally seen in a movie. We also discuss the potential impacts of AI on the film industry and creative processes more broadly.

We explore ideas around personal growth, societal change, and envisioning post-scarcity futures as Lando shares his perspectives on the transformative potential of psychedelics, drawing from his own experiences and how they influenced the themes in his movie.

Additionally, the conversation touches on some, let’s say, provocative topics related to economics, labour, and visions for reorganizing society. And, although I can’t endorse any particular views, I believe you’ll find it to be a thought-provoking dialogue about technology, consciousness, and human potential.

If you like what you hear today, you can check out Jeffery’s substack here, or follow him on Instagram here.
Or, you can Watch Lissa’s Trip on Tubi Now.

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Tripping into Post-Scarcity: AI, Psychedelics, and the Future of Filmmaking | Jeffery Lando ~ ATTMind 192

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Episode Breakdown and Timestamps

(02:40) Interview begins
(04:03) Lissa’s Trip as an experiment of post-singularity/non-hierarchical film making
(11:54) Producing psychedelic visuals by getting AI to hallucinate on an image
(19:03) The difference between Google’s old Deep Dream and modern Ai art generation
(25:57) A diverse ecosystem of AI models, will be our saving grace.
(39:25) Debating the reality of money and its ties to the value of goods and labour
(50:47) The difference between “art” and “content” is how it moves the person witnessing it, produced through AI or not.
(59:36) Unrestrained info access vs. regulated content: freedom or control?
(1:07:59) Patreon Thanks
(1:09:45) Adding new tech on top of old systems rather than integrating new technology to creates better systems; mirrors the psychedelic mainstreaming
(1:18:09) Facing the shadow is key; we need “poor people” to force us back to the factory.
(1:21:01) Psychedelic disrupt our established models of reality, allowing us to face our shadow and create better models for realty
(1:28:45) Lissa’s Trip was meant to disrupt filmmaking culture; AI’s only threat is to the status quo
(1:34:16) AI’s only threat is to the status quo
(1:35:25) What it means to live in a post-singularity world (more like burning man than the factory floor)
(1:37:17) Lissa’s Trip is meant to take people on a trip; and a love letter to LSD
(1:43:17) Watch Lissa’s Trip for free now, plus follow-up social links for Jeffry Lando
(1:45:14) Outro

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