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Charley Wininger returns to Adventures Through The Mind to discuss How To Host An MDMA Group Roll
Our discussions starts with a quick general overview of MDMA before shifting into a thorough exploration of group rolls—what they are, what they can offer us individually and collectively, who to invite, who not to invite, where to do it, what to include, what to exclude, safety protocols, and just a whole number of things.
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More About Charley
Charley Wininger is a Brooklyn-based psychotherapist who has spent the last 20 years disproving the party drug stereotype around MDMA, and credits it with bringing a kind of “magic” to his marriage, career and life as a senior citizen.
He has been on the show 3 times previously:
- MDMA for Couples | The Love Doctor, Charley Wininger ~ ATTMind 138
- Group MDMA for Grief And The Recently Bereaved | Shelley and Charley Wininger ~ ATTMind 150
- Why Our Sense of Connection Matters | Psychedelic Café 9
You can learn more about Charley and his work at https://listeningtoecstasy.com/
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Episode Breakdown
- (00:00) Opening
- (03:23) Patreon Thanks
- (06:23) Interview Begins
- (07:47) MDMA, a brief overview
- (11:38) How MDMA is Used, recreation and therapeutic
- (15:34) Group Rolls, explained
- (17:47) Charley’s Protocol For Group Rolls
- (23:04) How a group roll is different from just a party
- (24:39) The value of group rolls to the individual and society
- (34:59) Who to invite and who NOT to invite
- (41:30) How many people to invite
- (43:44) Contingencies that help protect the “container” of the roll
- (46:53) Presence of sober sitters, why or why not?
- (52:03) First timers
- (55:47) Why a group roll is NOT a ceremony
- (58:37) Environmental conditions (settings)
- (1:03:26) What people should bring for themselves
- (1:05:51) Further safety protocols
- (1:10:34) Screening people for medical/pharmacological risks
- (1:12:58) How to handle people wandering off
- (1:13:37) The importance of an “opening statement” to the group, and what else to include
- (1:15:22) A short anecdote about a ketamine incident
- (1:17:11) Playing with silence during the roll
- (1:19:51) Things to do together during the roll, healing circle
- (1:23:41) Dosing and re-dosing considerations
- (1:30:12) Finding the group roll dosage “sweet spot” and why more isn’t necessarily better
- (1:33:58) How and when to “close” the roll
- (1:39:42) Integration considerations
- (1:41:54) Follow up links and socials
- (1:43:42) Interview Addendum, One Pulse Global Rolls
- (1:48:00) Could rolling together impact the world?
- (1:50:32) Outro
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