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Psychedelic psychotherapy is coming.
In the face of excellent science and fine-tuned bureaucratic efforts, psychedelics are making their way out of their Orwellian prohibition and back into medicine. Psychedelic psychotherapy, including substances like MDMA, psilocybin, LSD, ketamine, and Ibogaine, are being shown to be effective treatments for post-traumatic stress disorder, treatment-resistant depression (and here), (cigarette, alcohol, and opiate) addiction, and existential anxiety at the end of life.

Yes, psychedelic psychotherapy is coming… in fact, it’s already here.
As the legal, academic, and medical institutions work steadily to bring psychedelic psychotherapy into the mainstream, a thriving underground network of psychedelic therapists are already operating despite the potential legal ramifications of their action. Free from institutional oversight, underground psychedelic psychotherapy is a mixed bag.
The vast network of underground psychedelic psychotherapy is able to explore whole new realms of potential benefit through experimentation and following what works. Yet this same capacity can lead to unethical, ineffective, or even damaging results. It is being offered discreetly by aboveground certified clinical professionals in counselling and therapy, it is also being provided by people with no training at best or even megalomaniacal delusions of grandeur at worse. But, let’s not dwell too deeply on the antagonists of this network and instead focus on those providing quality care, and risking their careers and their freedom to offer people therapy that works where none other did, changing people’s lives for the better.
Today’s guests for the podcast — three female, underground psychedelic therapists from Canada — are on the show anonymously to share their wisdom, experience, and knowledge of psychedelic psychotherapy. Specifically, we talk about psilocybin, MDMA, and 3-MMC assisted psychotherapy; their methodologies and practices; cautions and concerns; and an in-depth look at both what it is like and what it takes to be an underground psychedelic psychotherapist.
This is an episode for anyone interested in psychedelic psychotherapy be it as a current or future provider or someone who is seeking it for their own health and healing.
TRANSCRIPT of this episode is now available.
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Episode breakdown
- What models of therapy are being offered and what substances are being used
- How they decide what substance is best for each client
- What are the differences in methodology for different substance?
- Red flags
- Does the therapist take the dose as well?
- Who’s in the room? How many therapists, sitters, clients and why?
- How to address panic and anxiety attacks during psychedelic sessions
- Some cautions in finding a psychedelic therapist
- Specific needs for providing psychedelic therapy to people in their sick time.
- Death anxiety within psychedelic therapy
- Providing psychedelic therapy to minors
- Integration practices and perspectives.
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I was very interested in hearing about this subject. I’m sorry, I just can’t get past the voice modulation. I find impossible to listen to. I am very disappointed.
I am sorry to hear that. You are not the only one. I guess it was fine for most people but for some, it was completely unlistenable. I have actually just hired a person to do a transcript of the episode. It’s pretty expensive and am raising some funds for it (if you care to donate you can do so at https://www.paypal.me/JWJesso) I will release it once it is ready within a week or so. Check back here next week or subscribe to the subreddit, where I will be announcing it when it is ready. https://www.reddit.com/r/ATTMindPodcast/
TRANSCRIPT of this episode is now available.
https://jameswjesso.com/transcript-psychedelic-psychotherapy-a-conversation-with-three-underground-providers-attmind-90/