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In March 2016 I was welcomed to a Festival in Australia. While out there I made specific plan to connect with author and psychonaut, Julian Palmer. A series of incredible synchronistic occurrences led to the festival I was flown out for being canceled and in turn, Julian helped arrange us to do this talk together. It was a one night only special event and we thankfully had audio recorded by one of the guests!

This was actually a live broadcast, which is always interesting. It was pretty late for me that day, and I wasn’t caffeinated… also I didn’t now much about Michael or his show and I was a bit uneasy with his questions at first. So I may have been a bit confrontational. Maybe not? You tell me.